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    webster76
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    Default Damned Stupid F*****G Ray

    Sorry but If you sold something that 75% of users could not use you think you might try to create a way that buyers can setup the whole system in one simple step, not be too much of an ask. Not installing Dolphin then Ray, then whatever.

    After some research my suspicion is Ray is not an original script and looks very similar to a Red5 script I saw a couple of years ago.

    There is a script called Jamroom available from http://jamroom.net which surpasses dolphin in it's simplicity and I run this script on 3 sites and never ever had any trouble implementing video, music or chat script they all come built in and work.
    If I didn't believe that Dolphin could work I would walk away, but i truly believe that this script can be improved immensely and the first step i would take is the total removal of ray. It is far too complicated.
    I have 3 years experience of modding scripts, websites and the internet in general but I struggle to get Ray installed correctly what chance does the average webgod have?
    Somewhere between slim and none, thats how much.

    I have written mods for various websites and never have i come across a script as ridiculous as Ray. If I could persuade Boonex to do anything it would be DITCH RAY, it isn't user friendly enough.

    The Dolphin script is beautiful but with Ray its like a racehorse with 3 legs, it just wont run. Come on guys there are plenty of people willing to contribute.

    Speaking of contributions Expertzzz.com expect me to pay monthly for the privelege of improving their script? WTF.

    Makes me wonder how much they actually wrote themselves or was that contributed as well?

    If this post dissapears then we know the freedom of speach has truly been removed by the PC brigade.

    So thats why I captured a snapshot in case it does.

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    You have just reached the plateau that most of us have come too, that I now call the "Boonex realization"

    In case you did not put the two together, Boonex is not stupid. A lot of companies do this exact thing. Just like Abledating, they put together a very nice looking package but they build it with many holes so that you will become dependent on them and pay for their services.

    They can make the script open source and let others build upon it for them, just like you suggested, and then charge you for a removal license and then charge you for helping you fix their script. You are right, and they are brilliant.

    Once you reach this realization it is very obvious.

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    webster76
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    Default Its called Golden handcuffs

    I believe the term is 'golden handcuffs'. Where something works but there is always a glitch. So you have to go back and pay them some more, which fixes the bug but later reveals another and have to pay to get that fixed. etc..etc..

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    Default Think about this for a minute...

    If you look around you and really think about it. Just about every industry works that way. Look at the automobile industry. They could build cars and trucks that could last a very long time but why??? If they did that you would not buy any parts from them. Look at the pharmaceutical industry....they make trillions of dollars off research from public and private funding. If they actually cured something like cancer or the common cold. All of that money would go away.
    You just don't fry the golden egg!!! Instead they spend money to develop a treatment that they can sell to you for the rest of your life!
    So now not only do they make money off the treatments but they also still get the money to continue the research to develop yet another treatment they can sell. And the cycle goes on and on. The same goes for software. look at anti virus software. I think they make viruses just so the can sell you their products.
    So why would Boonex or the guys that make mods want to do anything different.
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    MicroSoft....LOL

    I'm building my own with the idea of perfection in mind I actually have it running on a couple of my site.
    MySQL Layer
    Template Engine
    Automated sanitization of Request vars (this is actaully very cool)
    Able to add plugins per template or globally

    Quote Originally Posted by Nos View Post
    You have just reached the plateau that most of us have come too, that I now call the "Boonex realization"

    In case you did not put the two together, Boonex is not stupid. A lot of companies do this exact thing. Just like Abledating, they put together a very nice looking package but they build it with many holes so that you will become dependent on them and pay for their services.

    They can make the script open source and let others build upon it for them, just like you suggested, and then charge you for a removal license and then charge you for helping you fix their script. You are right, and they are brilliant.

    Once you reach this realization it is very obvious.
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